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Sea Breeze
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My 20 year anniversary
by new boy inafter being a jehovah's witness for 52 years, today marks my 20 year anniversary of being out of the borg!
i turned in my letter of disassociation on september 18th 2001. it was read to the congregation on september 19th, my wife's birthday.
of course the years have had its difficulties but it has also had many wonderful experiences and epiphanies.
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What Congregation Scandal Still Troubles You?
by Sea Breeze ini was appointed as a regular pioneer in a certain congregation.
in that congregation, a very obese male pioneer seduced a nice looking married pioneer sister who had two teenage sons.
her husband was a ms. both were df'd.
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Sea Breeze
I was appointed as a Regular Pioneer in a certain congregation. In that congregation, a very obese male pioneer seduced a nice looking married pioneer sister who had two teenage sons. Her husband was a MS. Both were Df'd. I felt really bad for the husband and the teenage sons. Total embarrassment.
Later, the P.O. announced that one young sister was the only teenager in the congregation that had not not been before a judicial committee. He made this announcement right after one of her meeting parts on the TMS. Within a week or two they disfellowshipped her.
I left the congregation without saying goodbye to anyone and moved to another city. Shortly thereafter, the PO was disfellowshipped for cheating on his wife.
Within 4 years, I was free of the cult. That one congregation was a significant part of my decision to leave.
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Are JW Masters of Deception?
by Iamallcool inwe do know that many of them are masters of deception!
can you give us some examples?
i notice that some worldly people think jw are very honest people but we know better than that!
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Sea Breeze
JW's want Freedom of religion, unless it is someone who wants to be free of their religion. Then, you must be persecucted in one of the worst possible ways.
JW's do not tell you that Jesus is not your Mediator before God before joining.. This is not one of the 100 or so baptismal questions. Yet, when you later find out after joining their ranks, you are not free to simply attend another church without being labelled a deceiver, hater of God, an apostate, and one who is anti-christ. This of course means disfellowshipping and loss of family and friends.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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Sea Breeze
Disillusioned,
That's funny. I have found the bible to be very accurate.... the opposite of your conclusion. Could you please post what you believe to be the greatest contradiction you found?
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Al Gore speech or JW convention?
by neat blue dog init literally could be either.
the clip starts at 1:15. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljymc--cpoy&feature=youtu.be.
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Sea Breeze
A new NASA study... challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.
According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001....[and] ...82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.
Looks like some years the south pole is the coldest and some years the north pole is coldest. There is a 50/50 % chance that one or the other will be the coldest.... and/or the warmest.
Whichever one is warmest that year(s), gets the global warming designation. Duh
Heat and cold move around, as you would expect on a planet full of life, atmospheric volitivity, volcanic activity and solar variance.
C02 has nothing to do with any of this in my opinion.
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Al Gore speech or JW convention?
by neat blue dog init literally could be either.
the clip starts at 1:15. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljymc--cpoy&feature=youtu.be.
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Sea Breeze
Thankfully, a lot of people gotten off the Al Gore boat. For instance: This glacier keeps growing in spite of Al Gore!
Here's what experts are saying:
- U.S. NOAA scientist John Bates, 2017, exposes deception in major NOAA climate change paper in the journal Science
- UN IPCC environmental physical chemist Kiminori Itoh, on climate "scandal"
- UN IPCC atmospheric chemist Steven Japar, actual temperature data refutes climate models
- UN IPCC climatologist John Christy reports science distortion by lead authors of crisis papers
- UN IPCC environmental scientist Kenneth Green, death spiral for climate alarmism
- UN IPCC meteorologist Hajo Smit urged by Gore to look at the science becomes a "solid skeptic"
- UN IPCC nuclear physicist Philip Lloyd, our CO2 is insignificant and IPCC distorts the science
- UN IPCC expert reviewer physical chemist Vincent Gray, IPCC claims are dangerous nonsense
- UN IPCC metallurgist Tom Tripp and an IPCC greenhouse gas emissions author, dissents
- U.S. AMS, Nat'l Weather Service, & Cornell statistician, the climate "crisis" is anti-science
- and many other UN scientists sound the alarm against the UN's climate fraud
- as do former NASA and countless other highly credentialed scientists, like Cliff Ollier, here.
- and as an honorable mention, Jim Steele 25-year director of San Francisco State University Sierra Nevada Field Campus and author of Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist's Journey to Climate Skepticism. -
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I have never been to Las Vegas.
by Iamallcool ini would like to visit las vegas one day.
if you have a choice, would you want to live there?
low humidity sounds good to me.
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Sea Breeze
We got married in Las Vegas. I was shunned by ALL of my relatives. (Both sides of family were JW's for generations). So, it worked for us.
The town is a bit fake, sleazy and over-the-top. At least we didn't do the Elvis wedding theme.
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Sea Breeze
Corporal punishment was common in the Ancient Near East (ANE) and was used upon the free as well as slaves: Code of Hammurabi, 211; Scourged, Twelve Tables of Roman Law 8:15 (See Quotes from various Ancient Near East Law Codes regarding Slavery). Likewise, in the Bible, the rod was applied to slaves and non-slaves alike.
Prisons, for the most part didn't exist. Punishment was meted out quickly and then society and the one punished would move on.
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GB / Wives ,wont voluntarily give up their lifestyle
by smiddy3 injust an observation viewing some of their on camera appearances , and their arrogance believing they are the only one`s used by god to reach and teach the people ,despite what gj said at the arc on the subject.. no doubt the gb men wear designer tailor made suits from the best tailors in nys ?
and their wives adequately provided for in a similar way ?
nothing from kmart or target ,walmart or whatever.. shoes are probably made from form fit cobblers to fit the individual ?
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Sea Breeze
If the GB can find themselves in scripture (F&DS) , then why not their wives in scripture too?
GB wives will not want to move from their lakeside mountain paradise when the money dries up.
..., she will not be moved; - Ps. 45 5
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The (IN)Consistent teaching about VACCINATIONS from JW leaders
by Terry invaccinations.
how many deaths were instigated which could be prevented?watchtower policies against vaccines left faithful sheep vulnerable to horrible consequences.antitoxins and vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus, anthrax, cholera, plague, typhoid, tuberculosis, and more were developed through the 1930s.. 1921 - "vaccination never prevented anything and never will, and is the most barbarous practice" - golden age oct 12, 1921, p.17.
1923 - "vaccination, summed up, is the most unhygienic, barbaric, filthy, abhorrent, and most dangerous system of infection known.
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Sea Breeze
That was right during the polio epidemic. I wonder how many suffered death and crippling due to a bunch of uneducated nut jobs?
